Vegan activist meets sheep farmer to talk about food industry
At a time when it is increasingly hard to find common ground, the BBC and the British Council have been bringing people together who disagree and might never normally meet to discuss big issues such as climate change, class, immigration and Brexit.
Vegan activist Sion Webb and sheep farmer Caryl Haf Jones agreed to take part in "deep listening" training, a technique where people are asked to listen, without interruption, putting aside judgements, counter-arguments and solutions.
And then they met for a conversation.
So how did it go?
